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Unwanted visitors
How to deter frogs
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A
frog he would a-wooing go,
Heigh ho! says Rowley,
A frog he would a-wooing go,
Whether his mother would let him or no.
With a Rowley, powley, gammon, and spinach,
Heigh ho! says Anthony Rowley. |
First of all, it has to be said that under the vast majority of
circumstances, you don't want to deter frogs from your garden at all but attract
them. Any frogs in your garden will be a lot more nervous of you than you are
of them.
As well as being a valuable part of the native wildlife of all
countries, they are a great friend to the gardener in that they munch their way
through large quantities of slugs - and the conditions that attract slugs also attract
frogs.
This page came about because I received a number of emails in
fairly rapid succession from people from the UK to the US and Canada, Australia
and somewhere where the mailer didn't say, but his problem was with noisy tree-frogs!
It seems that there are circumstances where gardeners are inundated
with frogs in quantities akin to a biblical plague. People have described "taking
bucket-load after bucket load" back to the wild, or having very messy lawn-mowing
and strimming sessions (best not to think about that one!)
So if this applies to you, if the calls of amorous
male tree frogs are keeping you awake, or if there are frogs sharing your swimming
pool, but not pulling their weight in skimming the leaves, I hope this page will
be of use.
There is no easy answer. I didn't know of one, so I posted
the question on the home page, hoping some-one might help, all that came about was
the question was picked up by Google and I got lots more emails from people asking
if I'd found an answer yet!
In the end I sent an email to various amphibian sites on the web
and posted the question on relevant bulletin boards. The response wasn't exactly
overwhelming, but the answers are either paraphrased or quoted here.
Well, here is something
that might surprise you! After many hours on the phone speaking to "reptile
professors" in Tallahassee, I found out that if you want to deter frogs
without harming them (like I wanted to) all you do is spray a heavy
concentrate of "SALT WATER" around the areas you don't want them.
What happens is the salt will sting the feet and this makes em move
out. Be careful if you have sensitive plants. I just wanted them off
my ledges of my house and leaving their droppings. It worked like magic!
- Lynne, Tampa FloridaI Googled your site because there's a frog
(or toad) under my house that wakes me up every couple of hours. I need
to make him go away. The suggestion by Lynne in Tampa, Florida to spray
with concentrated salt water is extremely helpful, as it never would
have occurred to me.
- Chris LaFave, Beaverton, Oregon, USA
Note Paul - webmaster, plants of almost any kind hate
salt water and it will kill most greenery especially with repeated sprayings.
But this sounds like a fantastic tip if applied sparingly - and the
only effective one I've heard of.
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There is no simple frog deterrent, no harmless chemical, plastic
heron or warning sign that will make them think "oh oh, better not go there".
The only ways to stop frogs are to:
- Remove the conditions that attracts them in the
first place.
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- Divert them from the rest of the garden with
a froggy corner.
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- Put some kind of physical barrier in place that
they can't cross.
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Frogs and toads are attracted to your garden for two reasons.
The garden provides a source of food in the form of slugs and other potential pests,
which they eat in large numbers. Secondly, they are attracted by shady, cool, moist
places and water features.
The most effective method of deterring them is to remove the slugs
(ha ha) and re-design the damp cool spots out of the garden. Neither method is easy
but if you are desperate to get the frogs out, it is the only way.
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From; Tim Halliday, Professor in
Biology & International Director.
Declining Amphibian
Populations Task Force (DAPTF)
People should rejoice when they find frogs in their garden, given
that they are vanishing from so many parts of
the world. My advice is that they should hold off mowing, etc. until
the frogs disperse and find safe hiding places, which they soon do.
In my experience, frogs are only in the open when it's damp; surely,
you should not mow your grass under such conditions.
With best wishes,
Tim.
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an enquiry at the
Kingsnake
Amphibian forum: |
- the question is: why would anyone want to keep
toads out of the garden? they eat bugs! if the garden is organic
with no pesticide/fertilizer that would be great. people just need
to be more vigilant when they are working in the lawn. I suppose
a fence would keep them out for a while but the toads aren't going
anywhere. tell them to embrace nature, not kick it out.
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- I agree entirely with _____ (above). I
think that any reply to these people should thoroughly explain the
role of amphibians (or any wild animal for that matter) in their
environment. I expect that you already understand that, but I wanted
to emphasize that to you.
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- I would say that anytime there are problems with
a certain area being over-run with a certain animal, it is usually
related directly to the food source. Since it is impossible to get
rid of all the insects, it would be impossible to get rid of the
frogs. You could erect a barrier, but that would be unsightly.
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- Unfortunately, I don't have any answers for you.
But it would be nice to explain to them that a bucket load of toads
is far better than a bucket load of plant eating insects.
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- I know what you are talking about too. I know
all about the cane toads in Australia. Just fyi- Australia introduced
them to eat sugar cane beetles. they are not native. Another brilliant
decision made by man.
There is no way to get rid of the toads. people have to live with
them. gardens probably best habitat left for the toads in the area.
tell them to put in a small pond and some shrubs between the garden
and where the toads come from. they will go there instead but not
all of them.
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From: Gary S. Casper
Collections Manager, Herpetology & Ichthyology,
Milwaukee Public Museum
Basically, if frogs are on a landscape
they have a breeding pond, and during certain times of the year they
will be out and about in numbers. Normally there is a spring migration
to the pond, a mid-summer exodus of young from the pond, and finally
an autumn return to the vicinity of the pond. Most movements occur during
rain events.
Most of the problems I have heard of in the past were in regards to
frogs becoming trapped in swimming pools, where they hop in and then
can't get out. The only effective way to resolve this is with barriers,
some sort of low fencing or decorative wall that the frogs can't pass.
The same trick would work to keep frogs out of gardens, although given
the benefits to be derived from having insectivorous frogs in the garden,
I'm not sure why people would want to keep frogs out of the garden.
The occasional diced frog in the lawn mower can be gruesome, but rarely
has an effect at the population level. This can be largely avoided by
mowing when frogs are in retreats - dry and warm periods.
Back to barriers, to reduce the extent of them they should be
placed where they are most effective. One should assess where the frogs
are coming from and going to, and then put barriers in place to direct
them around the area designated a no-frog zone. Depending on the landscape,
this may not require a complete enclosure of the frog-free zone. Often
a barrier on one side that forces the frogs into another direction will
suffice.
What also goes a long way is learning tolerance and appreciation of
wildlife in the garden, and using a bit of common sense to time activities
such as mowing to periods when frogs are not on the lawn.
Hope this helps,
Gary
Co-Chair,
Midwest Partners in Amphibian and Reptile Conservation
Wisconsin Herpetology Homepage
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Peter
Bronski
Staff Ecologist,
Audubon
Cooperative
Sanctuary Program,
Audubon
International
NY
I too
am unfamiliar with means of deterring frogs from the garden without
harming them. Frogs and other amphibians tend to congregate around water
sources (ponds, streams, and I suppose in some misdirected cases, swimming
pools) during breeding season, which is usually only a brief period
of the year. During this
time you might expect something of a biblical plague of them, but at
other times I would expect them to distribute throughout the landscape.
Amphibians pose no hazard to humans directly, and in fact, species
like frogs perform a valuable service in terms of insect control. They
also serve as a valuable food source for other larger animals.
So in
short, I cannot offer much advice for simple, humane control.
If the frogs can be tolerated during breeding season then hopefully
their concentration will decrease afterward and gardeners can have fewer
troubling encounters between frogs and lawn mowers.
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From: Allen Salzberg,
Editor/Publisher,
HerpDigest.
Sounds like bullfrogs, they get exported in large numbers with fish
people buy for their ponds and they without an natural enemies can get
very prolific. Look up on websites for frogs and see if it matches.
Then look for suggestions how to control them. Once in an area with
the numbers you are talking about sounds like you can only control the
population if at all.
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From
Bruce Kingsbury
Hmm -
Usually the problem is in the other direction.
Frogs
disperse away from reproductive sites, and these may well be out of
the control of the gardener. In “good” years, a lot of frogs may be
hopping around looking for somewhere to live.
Swimming
pools won’t work for them as reproductive sites, because of the chemicals,
but they don’t know that, so they try anyway. Often they are then trapped
by the coping around the pool.
Frogs
don’t like open, dry areas, but unless you are desert gardening, this
might not be worthwhile information!
Does
that help, or at least explain things a little? Good luck!
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Q. I live right off a sump. I
was told that in a few weeks there will be a large number of frogs coming up
from the sump and making my yard and garden their home.. this is not a problem
for me; however I have a six month old puppy and I'm not to sure what kind of
frogs are expected and I don't know if they are poisonous.. I'm sure he won't
hesitate to eat one or two. I just want to put his health first. If there is
any way you or whoever I'm writing this to, can help me, I would greatly appreciate
any ideas you may have for making these next few months as easy as possible.
A. I don't know for sure so you
may want to ignore this - but... It's unlikely the frogs will be poisonous,
my guess is if they were you'd have heard a long time ago. If they are, your
puppy will almost certainly spit them out pretty sharpish!
Are there dogs around where you live? OK so they didn't die
last year.
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